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== Ground Units ==
Tanks and other armored units  
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=== Tanks and other armored units ===
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NOTE: T-80 production has ceased. You have to get Ukrainian T-84s if you want them now.  
 
NOTE: T-80 production has ceased. You have to get Ukrainian T-84s if you want them now.  
 
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* T-90A 'Vladimir' MBT: $4.15 million (based on Russian MOD)  
 
* T-90A 'Vladimir' MBT: $4.15 million (based on Russian MOD)  
 
* T-90M MBT: $3.5 million - (based on Indian purchase)  
 
* T-90M MBT: $3.5 million - (based on Indian purchase)  
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* BTR-T APC: $700,000 on Russian-supplied T-55 (based on costs for similar vehicles)  
 
* BTR-T APC: $700,000 on Russian-supplied T-55 (based on costs for similar vehicles)  
 
* BTR-80 APC: $400,000 (guess based on prices for surplus units in late-90s)  
 
* BTR-80 APC: $400,000 (guess based on prices for surplus units in late-90s)  
 
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A9hicule_blind%C3%A9_de_combat_d%27infanterie VBCI IFV]: $4 million (520 vehicles [http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-819.html#toc296 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A9hicule_blind%C3%A9_de_combat_d%27infanterie VPC (command post vehicle)]: $3.1 million (110 vehicles [http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-819.html#toc296 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
 
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=== Upgrades to existing tanks and armored units ===
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* BMD-4 ACV: $500,000 upgrading from BMD-3 to BMD-4.  
 
* BMD-4 ACV: $500,000 upgrading from BMD-3 to BMD-4.  
 
* BTR-T APC: $400,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks, $700,000 if you dont have any T-55s to upgrade (based on costs for similar vehicles)  
 
* BTR-T APC: $400,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks, $700,000 if you dont have any T-55s to upgrade (based on costs for similar vehicles)  
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* BMP-1P: $600,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks. Adds a 9P13M Konkurs launcher on an exposed pintle.  
 
* BMP-1P: $600,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks. Adds a 9P13M Konkurs launcher on an exposed pintle.  
 
* BMP-1PG: $350,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks. Adds an AGS-17 auto grenade launcher.  
 
* BMP-1PG: $350,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks. Adds an AGS-17 auto grenade launcher.  
* BMP-1MS: $920,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks. Adds a new turret with 2 2A42 30mm autocannons, 1 Kornet launcher and 1 PKTM coax machine gun.  
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* BMP-1MS: $920,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks. Adds a new turret with 2 2A42 30mm autocannons, 1 Kornet launcher and 1 PKTM coax machine gun.
 
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Artillery, rockets and missiles  
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=== Artillery, rockets and missiles launchers ===
 
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* BM-30 300mm MRL: $12.1 million (based on very recent sale to India)  
 
* BM-30 300mm MRL: $12.1 million (based on very recent sale to India)  
 
* 2S19 152mm SPH: $2.25 million (based on 2000 price)  
 
* 2S19 152mm SPH: $2.25 million (based on 2000 price)  
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* 2S23 120mm SP Gun/Mortar: ~$750,000 (based on 2000 price  
 
* 2S23 120mm SP Gun/Mortar: ~$750,000 (based on 2000 price  
 
* 9K720 Iskander: $120 million per battery (6 launch vehicles, 24 missiles, command and support vehicles) - (wild guess)  
 
* 9K720 Iskander: $120 million per battery (6 launch vehicles, 24 missiles, command and support vehicles) - (wild guess)  
 
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Missile systems  
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=== Missile systems ===
 
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* S-400 (SA-21): $400 million per fire unit (8 launchers, 112 missiles, command and support vehicles) (estimate based on performance figures, larger missile load, etc)  
 
* S-400 (SA-21): $400 million per fire unit (8 launchers, 112 missiles, command and support vehicles) (estimate based on performance figures, larger missile load, etc)  
 
* S-300PMU-2 - (SA-20B): $200 million per fire unit (6 launchers, 48 missiles, command and support vehicles) (guess based on below)  
 
* S-300PMU-2 - (SA-20B): $200 million per fire unit (6 launchers, 48 missiles, command and support vehicles) (guess based on below)  
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* Pantsir-S1: $16+ million (based on sale to Algeria)  
 
* Pantsir-S1: $16+ million (based on sale to Algeria)  
 
* Bastion-P Coastal Defense Battery: $150 million for radar, control center, 6 launchers, & 36 missiles - (based on Syrian buy)  
 
* Bastion-P Coastal Defense Battery: $150 million for radar, control center, 6 launchers, & 36 missiles - (based on Syrian buy)  
 
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* [http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataWeapon?ID=2598 MdCN [Naval SCALP EG]]: $2.81 million ([http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-818.html#toc280 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
Aircraft  
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AASM AASM]([http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataWeapon?ID=478 SBU-38], [http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataWeapon?ID=1603 SBU-54], [http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataWeapon?ID=2596 SBU-64]): $192.774 ([http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-818.html#toc280 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
Fighters (multirole, air superiority, strike)  
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* [http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataWeapon?ID=2699 GMLRS]: $184.836 ([http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-818.html#toc280 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
 
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== Aircraft ==
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* Su-35: $75+ million - (most legitimate claims were $65 million, but the Su-30s real price makes it clear the Su-35 should be significantly higher than that)  
 
* Su-35: $75+ million - (most legitimate claims were $65 million, but the Su-30s real price makes it clear the Su-35 should be significantly higher than that)  
 
* Su-30MK series: $60-70 million - (contract prices vary widely, from $50 million to Malaysia to over $80 million per unit for the Algerian trade-in)  
 
* Su-30MK series: $60-70 million - (contract prices vary widely, from $50 million to Malaysia to over $80 million per unit for the Algerian trade-in)  
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* MiG-29K: ~$50-55 million (Indian acquisition was $46+ in 2004, should be slightly more expensive than MiG-29M, which has most of the improved features but is not reinforced for carrier operations)  
 
* MiG-29K: ~$50-55 million (Indian acquisition was $46+ in 2004, should be slightly more expensive than MiG-29M, which has most of the improved features but is not reinforced for carrier operations)  
 
* MiG-29M: ~$50+ million ($5-10 mil more than SMT)  
 
* MiG-29M: ~$50+ million ($5-10 mil more than SMT)  
* MiG-29SMT: $45+ million (various contracts at between $40 and $45 million, some as low as $37. But, cheaper ones, as shown in the last link, arent quite new-build)  
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* MiG-29SMT: $45+ million (various contracts at between $40 and $45 million, some as low as $37. But, cheaper ones, as shown in the last link, arent quite new-build)
 
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* Gripen NG ([http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=3201 E]/[http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=3367 F]): ~$70 million (8/28, Brazilian deal, 175% offset. Flight hour cost: less than $7000. Raids Aviation #16)
Helicopters and ground attack aircraft  
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* [http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=3642 Rafale B]: $82.7 million (110 aircraft [http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-818.html#toc280 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
 
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* [http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=2788 Rafale C]: $77.1 million (118 aircraft [http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-818.html#toc280 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
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* [http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=2789 Rafale M]: $88.4 million (58 aircraft [http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-818.html#toc280 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
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* Ka-52: ~$40-50 million (based on below)  
 
* Ka-52: ~$40-50 million (based on below)  
 
* Ka-50N: ~$35-45 million (based on Mi-28 cost)  
 
* Ka-50N: ~$35-45 million (based on Mi-28 cost)  
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* Mi-26M: $18 million - (guess based on military-today, adjusted upwards 50%)  
 
* Mi-26M: $18 million - (guess based on military-today, adjusted upwards 50%)  
 
* Su-25TM/Su-39: $40 million - (rough estimate)
 
* Su-25TM/Su-39: $40 million - (rough estimate)
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* [http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=324 Tigre HAP]: $31.9 million (40 helo [http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-819.html#toc296 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
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* [http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=359 Tigre HAD]: $42.1 million (40 helo [http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-819.html#toc296 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
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* [http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=652 Caïman Marine (NH90 NFH)]: $48.9 million (27 helo [http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-816.html#toc255 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
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* [http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=653 Caïman (NH90 TTH)]: $34.6 million (68 helo [http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-816.html#toc255 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
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=== Support (Transport, Tanker, Patrol...) ===
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* [http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=1389 A.400M Atlas]: $179.7 million (15 aircraft [http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-816.html#toc255 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
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== Ships ==
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=== Surface ===
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* [http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataShip?ID=1766 FREMM]: $590.8 million (11 ships planned, 6 by 2019 [http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-819.html#toc296 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
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=== Submarine ===
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Barracuda-class_submarine Barracuda SSN]: $1.49 billion (4 subs, first in 2017 [http://www.senat.fr/rap/a14-110-8/a14-110-819.html#toc296 Projet de loi de finances pour 2015])
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Revision as of 06:33, 2 February 2015

Ground Units


Tanks and other armored units


NOTE: T-80 production has ceased. You have to get Ukrainian T-84s if you want them now.

  • T-90A 'Vladimir' MBT: $4.15 million (based on Russian MOD)
  • T-90M MBT: $3.5 million - (based on Indian purchase)
  • T-90S MBT: $3.9 million - (based on Cyprus purchase)
  • BMPT Tank Support Fighting Vehicle: $3 million - (educated guess based on the cost of a T-90)
  • BMP-3M IFV: ~$3.5-4 million - (based on how dumbed down Greek vehicles were, and South Korean press release)
  • BMP-3 IFV: $3.2 million for basic unit (based on Greek purchase)
  • BMD-4 ACV: ~$4 million
  • BMD-3 ACV: $3.5 million
  • 2S25 Sprut-D: $4.5 million - (guess based on the cost of the BMD-3)
  • BTR-90M IFV: ~$2 million (more guessing)
  • BTR-90 IFV: ~$1.5 million (educated guess based on a statement that it costs half as much as the Stryker)
  • BTR-82A IFV: ~$1.4 million - (See below)
  • BTR-80A IFV: ~$1.2 million (guess based on relation to BTR-90)
  • BRDM-3 Recce: ~$1.2 million (guess based on it being a BTR-80A variant)
  • BTR-T APC: $700,000 on Russian-supplied T-55 (based on costs for similar vehicles)
  • BTR-80 APC: $400,000 (guess based on prices for surplus units in late-90s)
  • VBCI IFV: $4 million (520 vehicles Projet de loi de finances pour 2015)
  • VPC (command post vehicle): $3.1 million (110 vehicles Projet de loi de finances pour 2015)


Upgrades to existing tanks and armored units


  • BMD-4 ACV: $500,000 upgrading from BMD-3 to BMD-4.
  • BTR-T APC: $400,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks, $700,000 if you dont have any T-55s to upgrade (based on costs for similar vehicles)
  • BMPT Tank Support Fighting Vehicle: $1.4 million as an upgrade to existing T-72 stocks - (based on BTR-T upgrade costs and T-72 modernization projects)
  • T-55M5: $700,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks. This modernization kit adds convex explosive reactive armour "Kontakt-5" panels around turret front, armour panel on glacis plate, a longer hull, a new style fire control equipment with stabilized TVK-3 and TKN-1SM sights for the gunner and commander, an improved V-55U engine (or V-46-5M) and a main gun stabilization system. The original 100 mm D-10T2S gun is maintained
  • T-55M6: $1.8 million as an upgrade of existing stocks ($2.4 million with options). A more radical upgrade with longer chassis with 6 road wheels each side, a 690 hp V-46-5M diesel engine and with the complete turret with automatic loader and 2A46M 125mm main gun of the T-72BM. Also the protection was increased to T-80U level. Optionally the tank can be equipped with the 1A40-1 fire control system with ATGM system 9K120 "Svir" (as T-72B) or with the 1A42 and 9K119 "Refleks" systems (as T-80U).
  • T-72BM: $800,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks. This adds a new 125mm gun, 1,000 hp diesel, a thermal gunners site, new camouflage, and Relikt ERA (which is supposed to be twice as effective as Kontakt-5)
  • BMP-1P: $600,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks. Adds a 9P13M Konkurs launcher on an exposed pintle.
  • BMP-1PG: $350,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks. Adds an AGS-17 auto grenade launcher.
  • BMP-1MS: $920,000 as an upgrade of existing stocks. Adds a new turret with 2 2A42 30mm autocannons, 1 Kornet launcher and 1 PKTM coax machine gun.


Artillery, rockets and missiles launchers


  • BM-30 300mm MRL: $12.1 million (based on very recent sale to India)
  • 2S19 152mm SPH: $2.25 million (based on 2000 price)
  • 2A65/MZ-146-1 152mm towed howitzer: $800,000 - (based on the costs of the French 155mm SP and towed howitzers, and the 2S19)
  • 2S31 120mm SP Gun/Mortar: $1 million (based on 2000 price)
  • 2S23 120mm SP Gun/Mortar: ~$750,000 (based on 2000 price
  • 9K720 Iskander: $120 million per battery (6 launch vehicles, 24 missiles, command and support vehicles) - (wild guess)


Missile systems


  • S-400 (SA-21): $400 million per fire unit (8 launchers, 112 missiles, command and support vehicles) (estimate based on performance figures, larger missile load, etc)
  • S-300PMU-2 - (SA-20B): $200 million per fire unit (6 launchers, 48 missiles, command and support vehicles) (guess based on below)
  • S-300PMU-1 - (SA-20A): $160 million per fire unit (6 launchers, 48 missiles, command and support vehicles) - (based on VERY recent Iranian order and other sales)
  • Buk-M1-2 (SA-17): ~$120 million per battalion with 6 TELARs, 6 transloaders, & 36 missiles (pretty much a guess)
  • Tor-M1 (SA-15): $25 million (based on possible future sale)
  • Pantsir-S1: $16+ million (based on sale to Algeria)
  • Bastion-P Coastal Defense Battery: $150 million for radar, control center, 6 launchers, & 36 missiles - (based on Syrian buy)
  • MdCN [Naval SCALP EG]: $2.81 million (Projet de loi de finances pour 2015)
  • AASM(SBU-38, SBU-54, SBU-64): $192.774 (Projet de loi de finances pour 2015)
  • GMLRS: $184.836 (Projet de loi de finances pour 2015)


Aircraft


Fighters (multirole, air superiority, strike)


  • Su-35: $75+ million - (most legitimate claims were $65 million, but the Su-30s real price makes it clear the Su-35 should be significantly higher than that)
  • Su-30MK series: $60-70 million - (contract prices vary widely, from $50 million to Malaysia to over $80 million per unit for the Algerian trade-in)
  • Su-33: ~$60-70 million - (based on relative prices of other Russian aircraft)
  • Su-32: ~$60-65 million - (based on relative prices of other Russian aircraft)
  • MiG-35: $55-60 million (assuming this is just referring to flyaway)
  • MiG-29K: ~$50-55 million (Indian acquisition was $46+ in 2004, should be slightly more expensive than MiG-29M, which has most of the improved features but is not reinforced for carrier operations)
  • MiG-29M: ~$50+ million ($5-10 mil more than SMT)
  • MiG-29SMT: $45+ million (various contracts at between $40 and $45 million, some as low as $37. But, cheaper ones, as shown in the last link, arent quite new-build)
  • Gripen NG (E/F): ~$70 million (8/28, Brazilian deal, 175% offset. Flight hour cost: less than $7000. Raids Aviation #16)
  • Rafale B: $82.7 million (110 aircraft Projet de loi de finances pour 2015)
  • Rafale C: $77.1 million (118 aircraft Projet de loi de finances pour 2015)
  • Rafale M: $88.4 million (58 aircraft Projet de loi de finances pour 2015)


Helicopters and ground attack aircraft



Support (Transport, Tanker, Patrol...)



Ships



Surface



Submarine